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Old 02-16-2018, 09:07 AM   #21
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Better than being 100į in my opinion
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My last trackday at Buttonwilow never got above 46 degrees.

Lots of people on race tires crashed because they couldn't keep any heat in the tires.
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Lots of people on race tires crashed because they couldn't keep any heat in the tires.
Im not running slicks/race tires so hopefully it'll work out!
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Old 02-16-2018, 03:11 PM   #24
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On a cold track day street tires are a really good choice.
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oh good to hear! Is it because they are designed to run at a lower temp?
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Yeah it's better than 100. I was hoping for a nice 70 degrees like the weather channel said last week. Doh!

I'm on a new set of S21s. My buddy who has spent some time there warned me about the cooler temps and not being able to keep the more track oriented tires hot enough.

The street tires will come up to temp quicker but will still need some time to reach temp but at least they have a broader working range.
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Just go and sweet talk them into letting you ride
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Old 02-17-2018, 09:49 AM   #28
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Street tires will have more grip from the get go on cold days, where the alternative has to have heat in them to soften up, and require so much friction to maintain the heat.

Street tires have lower operating temps and take less friction and time to reach them, but on the flip side can be overheated and get "greasy".

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Ever try pressing your thumbnail into a cold dunlop gpa pro vs. a dunlop q3?

The cold gpa will almost feel like plastic in comparison.

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Well I had to miss the track day. Woke up about 1am with a 101 fever, can't talk and feeling like warmed over death. F@&k you germs!!!
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Man, sorry to hear about that.
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Well I had to miss the track day. Woke up about 1am with a 101 fever, can't talk and feeling like warmed over death. F@&k you germs!!!
Dude that sucks! I kept trying to find you!

I will say you missed a dangerous day though. They typically have 5 bikes go down all day. Today we had 15, yes, 15 bikes go down and that was just before lunch. The cold temps threw a lot of the A and B group riders into the dirt. At least 2 were taken to the hospital. After lunch at least three more bikes went down. They had a mandatory meeting at lunch to tell everyone to slow down and take it easy. A couple of C group riders went down but it was mostly the A and B group guys/gals.

I had the absolute best time I have ever had on a motorcycle. It was one of the most fun days of my life. Seriously. C group was perfect for me. Learning the track the first two sessions then I followed Nick the instructor the next two sessions and that made all the difference in the world. One the lines were cemented in my mind I could concentrate on brake points, shifts points and other references to ride better and faster.

My second to last session an instructor swooped in and told me to follow him so I chased him for a couple laps then he let me by and chased me then passed again and I chased him. Afterward he told me he had a great time and it was super fun riding with me and I did a good job keeping up. Iím sure he was riding at about 60% and I was riding around 85-95% but it was still a nice compliment and good fun to ride with him.

Everyone was great. The track officials, all the personnel, the other riders, the instructors. I never had a sketchy inside pass or had someone come too close to me. The rules were clear and easy to understand and follow.

I cannot explain in words how much fun I had and how much I want to do it again. I am thoroughly addicted.
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Good to hear you had fun. I tried to keep in the spirit by watching Isle of Man TT races when I was awake during the day.
Every track day I have been to it's usually the A and B groups tossing their bikes down the track but dang, 15 is a lot. It looks like the next ones I may be able to made are the may 27 or 28th. I may check some of the other track day groups to see if they have some Sunday or Monday days. I can't really get off Friday or Saturday.

I felt good prepping the bike saturday and getting everything packed up then bang, some crappy little germ had to hit me.
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Dude that sucks! I kept trying to find you!

I will say you missed a dangerous day though. They typically have 5 bikes go down all day. Today we had 15, yes, 15 bikes go down and that was just before lunch. The cold temps threw a lot of the A and B group riders into the dirt. At least 2 were taken to the hospital. After lunch at least three more bikes went down. They had a mandatory meeting at lunch to tell everyone to slow down and take it easy. A couple of C group riders went down but it was mostly the A and B group guys/gals.

I had the absolute best time I have ever had on a motorcycle. It was one of the most fun days of my life. Seriously. C group was perfect for me. Learning the track the first two sessions then I followed Nick the instructor the next two sessions and that made all the difference in the world. One the lines were cemented in my mind I could concentrate on brake points, shifts points and other references to ride better and faster.

My second to last session an instructor swooped in and told me to follow him so I chased him for a couple laps then he let me by and chased me then passed again and I chased him. Afterward he told me he had a great time and it was super fun riding with me and I did a good job keeping up. Iím sure he was riding at about 60% and I was riding around 85-95% but it was still a nice compliment and good fun to ride with him.

Everyone was great. The track officials, all the personnel, the other riders, the instructors. I never had a sketchy inside pass or had someone come too close to me. The rules were clear and easy to understand and follow.

I cannot explain in words how much fun I had and how much I want to do it again. I am thoroughly addicted.
Holy Shnikies! That sounds like quite an attrition rate! Glad you didn't go down. Sounds like you had a great time and got complimented to boot!
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Dude that sucks! I kept trying to find you!

I will say you missed a dangerous day though. They typically have 5 bikes go down all day. Today we had 15, yes, 15 bikes go down and that was just before lunch. The cold temps threw a lot of the A and B group riders into the dirt. At least 2 were taken to the hospital. After lunch at least three more bikes went down. They had a mandatory meeting at lunch to tell everyone to slow down and take it easy. A couple of C group riders went down but it was mostly the A and B group guys/gals.

I had the absolute best time I have ever had on a motorcycle. It was one of the most fun days of my life. Seriously. C group was perfect for me. Learning the track the first two sessions then I followed Nick the instructor the next two sessions and that made all the difference in the world. One the lines were cemented in my mind I could concentrate on brake points, shifts points and other references to ride better and faster.

My second to last session an instructor swooped in and told me to follow him so I chased him for a couple laps then he let me by and chased me then passed again and I chased him. Afterward he told me he had a great time and it was super fun riding with me and I did a good job keeping up. Iím sure he was riding at about 60% and I was riding around 85-95% but it was still a nice compliment and good fun to ride with him.

Everyone was great. The track officials, all the personnel, the other riders, the instructors. I never had a sketchy inside pass or had someone come too close to me. The rules were clear and easy to understand and follow.

I cannot explain in words how much fun I had and how much I want to do it again. I am thoroughly addicted.

Which org did you ride with?
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Which org did you ride with?
The 19th was Let's Ride Track Days.

http://buttonwillowraceway.com/calendar-of-events/
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Rusty is right. Letís ride. They stopped at lunch and told everyone they needed to be more careful and stop crashing.
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Nobody using tire warmers???
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Nobody using tire warmers???
Lots of people were but when itís in the high 40s and low 50s by the time you take them off, get to the grid, wait on the grid, get released, and make it half way around a track whose track temp is also very low, in the mid 40s, the heat has left the tires completely.
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