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Old 09-24-2017, 11:14 AM   #1
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I Hate Crashing: Vacation Update

Our vacation went amazing. Streets of Willow evolved into a day of giving everything I had on my CBR to stay competitive against the onslaught of liter bikes dominating in the straights.

Thunder Hill was also exceptionally memorable. I got to enlist Dave Moss's help once again with setting up the RSV4 and the CBR. Dustin got to meet his hero - Marcel Irnie! Marcel is super friendly and was a sight to see out on the track with his students.

Now for the bad news, I made a silly and costly error on the RSV4. Last session of the day, first lap, barreling down on turn 9 at 100+ trying to get distance to pass another bike. Time to brake, and the rear wheel starts kicking up as if the throttle was being held in place - and off I went . I walked away with no physical harm whatsoever, and a $1200 dollar bill to bring the bike back to a track worthy status.

Any suggestions to improve the ergonomics between the brake lever and throttle to not have this happen again?

I took a video of the bike before I tore it apart and started rebuilding. I will post it to Youtube once I can figure out how.
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Old 09-24-2017, 11:45 AM   #2
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Old 09-24-2017, 12:11 PM   #3
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So sorry to hear of your crash. I have nothing to offer with regard to your query.

As one of the few here who’s run Thunder Hill, what did you think?

Bucket-list, or something to repeat?
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So sorry to hear of your crash. I have nothing to offer with regard to your query.

As one of the few here who’s run Thunder Hill, what did you think?

Bucket-list, or something to repeat?
Awesome track, very fun and flowing. I would say it is a repeat must considering the elevation changes are super drastic and different from other tracks in California. The drive north was awful, but well worth it.

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Old 09-24-2017, 01:59 PM   #5
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You did just the short course, right?
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You did just the short course, right?
We were running Thunder Hill east for two days.
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So you burned through the left sides of two sets of tires?
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So you burned through the left sides of two sets of tires?
The center actually took the hit. I was upright and it shows pretty well that the center of my rear tire was beginning to cold tear from the throttle being held in place.
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hmm I thought cold tear was caused by overinflated tires?..
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How do like the Aprilia so far as a track bike?
For me, it is the best bike for the track. Admittedly it is a little heavy, although I think with the recent "upgrades" she might weight a bit closer to a 2015 R1. There is this point with the bike where if you keep it moving at a high rate of speed it becomes very effortless to flick from side to side. I know that sounds obvious but it was very apparent to me when I tested the bike at GMR that you had to give a bit of effort to get the bike leaned over and as long as you kept up with your speed it became easy to tap into the geometry benefits of the bikes design. The power and torque is awesome, gotta love wheeling out of a corner every now and then.
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Aw no, Miruri :( sorry to hear but at 100+mph, SO GLAD you're OK!
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Speaking about the suckitude of crashing, how are you doing these days, Croissant?
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Thanks man...answered in my own (old) thread.
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Any suggestions to improve the ergonomics between the brake lever and throttle to not have this happen again?
Sorry to hear that you had a crash but I am glad to hear that you weren't hurt.

To me a quick action throtle makes a big difference, a lot of bikes have almost a 3/4 twist to WOT and that forces your wrist to be in an awkward position to close the thottle fully and get your finger tips back on the brake lever. I also like to set up my brake lever to be inline with my wrist while I'm almost straight up. A lot of people adjust their levers to be comfortable in a full tuck. Typically you aren't on the brakes hard while in a tuck so just adjust them to where your body position will be when you do the hardest braking.

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Sorry to hear that you had a crash but I am glad to hear that you weren't hurt.

To me a quick action throtle makes a big difference, a lot of bikes have almost a 3/4 twist to WOT and that forces your wrist to be in an awkward position to close the thottle fully and get your finger tips back on the brake lever. I also like to set up my brake lever to be inline with my wrist while I'm almost straight up. A lot of people adjust their levers to be comfortable in a full tuck. Typically you aren't on the brakes hard while in a tuck so just adjust them to where your body position will be when you do the hardest braking.

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Thank you for the suggestion Pearl. I figure crashing is part of the sport to some degree. Although two crashes within a year of doing track days may suggest something about my riding habits. Oh well... we are taking a month off since the Aprilia set us back a grand in repairs, but Dustin and I will be back at it in November!
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Thank you for the suggestion Pearl. I figure crashing is part of the sport to some degree. Although two crashes within a year of doing track days may suggest something about my riding habits. Oh well... we are taking a month off since the Aprilia set us back a grand in repairs, but Dustin and I will be back at it in November!
Maybe it's time for a school. It might be time for you to re establish your fundamentals so you can keep building. The crashes that hunt me the most are the ones that I didn't learn from. Take some time to analyze your crashes and make an effort not to blame your equipment. Most of the time it's rider error, just go back mentally and try to process how you approached that turn differently than all the other times you successfully went through it.



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