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Old 08-12-2018, 09:22 PM   #1
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Exhaust systems.. California

So I was on Revilla's website and on all the exhaust systems that had all of had this little fun fact (This product is legal in California only for racing vehicles which may never be used, registered or licensed for use upon a highway).. can anyone explain this to me.. it doesn't matter if it's a slip on or not.

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Read through this.....
https://www.chapmoto.com/blog/2014/0...lifornia-bike/

I had an issue trying to get a quickshifter shipped to California this past month.

RGbeard is going to suggest that we should all just move to Arizona or south of the border to avoid getting ticketed for a slip on.

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Read through this.....
https://www.chapmoto.com/blog/2014/0...lifornia-bike/

I had an issue trying to get a quickshifter shipped to California this past month.

RGbeard is going to suggest that we should all just move to Arizona or south of the border to avoid getting ticketed for a slip on.

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CHP can give you a ticket for any mod to your exhaust in CA. Even slipon..
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Alright... Hmm I'll risk it.
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Yep, first question from chp, is that an after market exhaust? Next words are your headlights are they stock? No mods are allowed, no extra lights, no nothing. But if it were me, I would take the chance and if caught, they may give a warning along with you have to change back to stock, go show them at the chp cave, then ticket tore up. But hey, there aren't many of them out there. I rarely see them over here in cal city, lancaster, palmdale area. Most people haul over here. Average speed on the 14 is 85-90, I kid you not.
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If you ride Palomar or Ortega or maybe snake where CHP have dedicated patrols they look for exhaust, OEM mirrors, rear license tidy's, side and fork reflectors and even smoked windscreens. They will ticket you even with bar end mirrors if they want. There is a law requiring a certain amount of sq inches of mirrors. If your just riding streets and freeways I doubt you'll have an issue.
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All of my bikes have aftermarket exhaust and so far never had an issue (Knock on wood). Then again Iím not revving my engine at stop lights or winding out in every gear like Iím trying to get the whole shot...well, usually
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Same. In my short time in CA (3 1/2 years) I've been running around this whole time up north in the bay area on my old R1 with aftermarket exhaust and even down here passing a few CHP cars on Ortega on my FZ with Graves cat eliminator kit with the sound insert removed. It's pretty loud, Graves website says 109db at 5K RPM

I think if you're riding around being a , you'll be more likely to get hassled. They generally have better to deal with.
Not saying it won't or doesn't happen. I just wouldn't worry about it too much.
Just keep your stock exhaust, if you get a ticket then throw it back on.
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Another reason to not ride the dangerous streets of Socal and be a track only rider. Safer and you are not a victim of the asinine laws of this state. Hopefully our great President Trump can succeed in rescinding all the awful California state laws on noise and pollution. Body slam communist Jerry Brown to the mat. If Trump can pull us out of the Paris Agreement (an agreement within the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, dealing with greenhouse-gas-emissions mitigation) unilaterally, there is hope he can bust up our draconian California pollution standards which is a drag on the automobile and motorcycle industries. MAGA !

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I’m not going to bother to mention how many times I’ve been pulled over...I’ve never had one officer comment on my exhaust or my lights (*except one who was really quite impressed). And to be honest, the lighting I run is, well, obscene.

The simple truth is, if you are respectful and appropriate, officers will generally treat you similarly. If they want to ticky-tack every line item the odds are you deserved it. You were doing something really bad...like a standup wheelie while lane splitting.

Or you lipped off to the officer and they decided to demonstrate a lesson to you.

I remember one ride, coming home late, late at night after a 1,000 mile day. Rolling out of Huntington Beach a Moto CHP pulled up along side me...the full carbon open race exhaust on my R1100RSL blatting away and HID lights eliminating any sense of night in front me at 2am. CHP checks the bike over, stem to stern, looks at me in my hi-viz Aerostich and give me the nod and rolls off.

Shorts and flip flops and I’d have been likely tackled and thrown to the ground. Instead, I’m some dude in proper gear being safe.

So, who do you want the CHP to see you as? Hoodlum? Or Rider? There’s a difference and they can see it.
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CHP checks the bike over, stem to stern, looks at me in my hi-viz Aerostich and give me the nod and rolls off.
I've noticed this when I made the transition to a hi-viz-ADV-rider. Sure, I make 'better' decisions than when I was street riding a sportybike but now I'm pretty sure cops think: "no way my radar gun is correct nor does this rider have an aftermarket exhaust, that's clearly an experienced rider out for a casual ride"
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All of my bikes have aftermarket exhaust and so far never had an issue (Knock on wood). Then again Iím not revving my engine at stop lights or winding out in every gear like Iím trying to get the whole shot...well, usually
Bikes built on Jan 1 2013 and after require exhausts with the little EPA sound level markings on them. Yours are 09 and under, so you have a bit more leeway technically.

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Violators face fines of up to $100 for a first offense and up to $250 for subsequent offenses. California Judges have the discretion to dismiss the fine for first-time offenders if the violation is corrected.

Also, a violation is considered a secondary offense, meaning a police officer canít stop a motorcyclist solely because the officer believes the motorcyclist is breaking the sound emissions label law.
In addition, California has motorcycle sound limits, by manufacture year.

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Arizona statutes:

28-955.01. Motorcycles; noise level equipment; unauthorized equipment

A. A person shall not operate or as an owner permit the operation of a motorcycle in this state that is not equipped with the manufacturer's original muffler or other original noise reduction equipment or with a replacement muffler or replacement noise reduction equipment capable of reducing the noise levels below the maximum operating noise levels established by the department pursuant to section 28-955.02.





So- same , different state.




As has been pointed out, these rules are rarely enforced. The only time I've ever actually seen anybody written up for an aftermarket exhaust is when the police are doing some sort of "public nuisance" sweep at a place like Mother's or the Rock House (or Alice's up by Santa Cruz). The cops will roll in and ticket pretty much every single bike in the parking lot, because all of us have some sort of violation on our bikes.

They do this because the bikes have been such a pain in the to locals that complaints have gotten out of hand and so the cops want to discourage hang-out type of behavior.


As far as getting written up on the side of the road for an aftermarket exhaust? Unless the cop is in an extremely bad mood it just doesn't happen.
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I've had ONE cop ask me about my exhaust, and it was recently. He asked me if the exhaust was aftermarket (its an Arrow slip-on on my Daytona 675) and I simply said no. It came from the dealership like this (which is a "partial truth"). He said ok, and that was the end of that conversation. He did tell me to make my license plate more visible, and that was the end of it.
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