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Old 05-23-2019, 12:21 PM   #1
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2008 SUZUKI GSXR 600

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2008

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GSX-R600

Mileage
14500

Asking Price
5100

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951-818-0117 devin

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Selling a mint condition 2008 GSXR600 Kelly Blue Book values the same bike with 25k+ miles at $5500 with no mods

Clean Title...Runs like a champ
14,500 Original Miles and owner
Tags up to date 2020
Tires are good
Full Yoshimura exhaust (1,100.00)
Ecu flash and tune (400.00)
Power commander (500.00)
Oem gsxr gel seat (180.00)
Zero gravity windscreen
Comes with both stock seats
No scratches super clean

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951-818-0117 located in riverside
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Old 05-23-2019, 01:58 PM   #2
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Old 05-23-2019, 02:42 PM   #3
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Why a power commander behind an ECU flash? If it is tuned correctly the PC is not needed. That could actually cause fueling problems depending if the PC was installed without an AutoTune module.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:51 PM   #4
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Why a power commander behind an ECU flash? If it is tuned correctly the PC is not needed. That could actually cause fueling problems depending if the PC was installed without an AutoTune module.


How do you flash the ECU correctly?

My Flashtune Flash that was on my FZ07 when i purchased it was done by 2 Wheel Dynoworks and it was absolute . They claim they designed that flash with their own expertise. Extremely rich and I ended up having to buy a Flashtune Activetune to correct it.

Due to this experience, Iíll be adding a PC to my Suzuki whenever I save up enough to remove the cat. Itís flashed because I want factory restrictions removed from the ECU. The cat needs to be removed because no track plastic belly pans will fit over the cat.


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Old 05-24-2019, 05:16 PM   #5
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My Flashtune Flash that was on my FZ07 when i purchased it was done by 2 Wheel Dynoworks and it was absolute . They claim they designed that flash with their own expertise. Extremely rich and I ended up having to buy a Flashtune Activetune to correct it.
Thanks for the review. Glad I never got that flash. I always figured an auto tune was miles ahead of a flash.
What made you think it was too rich?
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Old 05-24-2019, 06:02 PM   #6
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Thanks for the review. Glad I never got that flash. I always figured an auto tune was miles ahead of a flash.

What made you think it was too rich?


Heavy fuel consumption (low 20s mpg), fuel smell, poor performance (power)

It was all immediately corrected when I installed the ActiveTune.

Yeah since the FZ07 is purchased by a lot of beginners, that company runs a pretty strong game on the FZ07 forum. Guy I bought the bike from said the flash was awesome...

But! Your bike might be different! It may work for some.


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Old 05-25-2019, 12:14 AM   #7
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How do you flash the ECU correctly?

My Flashtune Flash that was on my FZ07 when i purchased it was done by 2 Wheel Dynoworks and it was absolute . They claim they designed that flash with their own expertise. Extremely rich and I ended up having to buy a Flashtune Activetune to correct it.

Due to this experience, I’ll be adding a PC to my Suzuki whenever I save up enough to remove the cat. It’s flashed because I want factory restrictions removed from the ECU. The cat needs to be removed because no track plastic belly pans will fit over the cat.


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Hmm... So are you asking 'flash the ECU correctly' or 'tune the ECU correctly'? To me those are 2 different things.

When I say tuner, I am referring to person that put the bike on a dyno, has the right equipment to read/write to the ECU and has the knowledge to know how to build fuel maps, set ignition timing, etc...

If a tuner (person, not a device) does not flash an ECU correctly, you will know because you will most likely be either buying a new ECU or having a deal wipe your ECU and re-install the stock map/codeset.

If said tuner can map the ECU correctly, then the PC will cause problems because the stock ECU will now be doing the correct things pre-signal into the PC. But the PC may not know that without the AutoTune. I have had custom maps put on several motorcycles, dirt and street. It takes an unlocked ECU and a tuner that knows what an ECU does and how to program it. Basically build a stock replacement map.

For me, back in 2001, when the new GSXR came out, I bought one immediately to race WSMC and AFM. I had access to a great tuner in NorCal that built a map with my mods on their dyno. Finding a good tuner, is hard to find. Sometimes a good tuner (person not device) can be hard to find, or an ECU is locked, in which case a PC is the best choice!!

I have never used FlashTune or TuneECU but I have used the KTM user setting tool prior to locked ECUs. I have also replaced complete ECUs with aftermarket. I think PC's are great as well and have had them on a few bikes but they are unnecessary when you already have a good tune in the the ECU. PC is a great bolt-on for most people to do instead of custom mapping directly to the ECU because of cost and simplicity.

Sounds like 2 Wheel Dynoworks used a generic map on your FZ07.

If your Suzuki is already flashed, why not have the tuner (person) do another map once the cat is removed vs a piggy back PC? If you do the PC as well, definitely do the AutoTune because it will plug into O2 bung and read the exhaust to determine mapping changes necessary vs best guess that the PC will have to do if it is only reading the intercepted ECU parameters and not what the output (exhaust) looks like.

BTW, I am getting ready to buy another PC because one of my bikes has a locked ECU and no aftermarket (in the US) makes a replacement ECU but I will also do the AutoTune.

EDIT: I read your post closer... So it sounds like the tune on your Suzuki was to change specific non-fuelling parameters so like change rev limit, open drive modes, ABS, etc.. If it does not have any changes to fueling or timing, then you can a PC should be fine behind that flash.

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Hmm... So are you asking 'flash the ECU correctly' or 'tune the ECU correctly'? To me those are 2 different things.

For me, back in 2001, when the new GSXR came out, I bought one immediately to race WSMC and AFM. I had access to a great tuner in NorCal that built a map with my mods on their dyno. Finding a good tuner, is hard to find. Sometimes a good tuner (person not device) can be hard to find, or an ECU is locked, in which case a PC is the best choice!!

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Exactly. Itís as simple as that itís highly unrealistic that youíre going to find a proper ECU ďtunerĒ without having to travel to the point of it not really being worth it at all. Remove the restrictions from the ECU, find a good Dynojet ďtuner ď that is much more accessible, get a good map with your bike on the dyno, then toss in an auto tuner if you like. Use your own laptop to work with your bike as you please after that.

I have a feeling Iíll get by with that.




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Old 05-25-2019, 08:56 PM   #9
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