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Old 04-21-2017, 08:38 PM   #1
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Contemplating getting naked

Getting a naked bike that is.

Looking for a bike but I keep changing my mind on what I want. Thought about an R1 (again) or CBR1000RR but thinking I might go for a naked bike this time round partly down to insurance costs. Bikes I'm thinking about include:

Triumph Speed Triple R
Aprillia Tuono V4R APRC
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The Triumph looks to have solid reliability but maybe not quite as exciting as the other two?

Aprillia looks awesome - any concerns over reliability long term?

Superduke I had an 07 previously. Never road it in the canyons but always sounded like it was going to die and the oil sump being high up the engine always freaked me out as I could never tell if it had enough or too much oil. Could just be me being too used to Japanese inline 4's.

I will be commuting and riding canyons but it would be good to have something that would also be fun on a track.

Anyone owned/own any of these bikes and can offer any advice, reviews etc? Any alternatives I should be considering?

Budget is around $8k-$10k max

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Old 04-21-2017, 08:46 PM   #2
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I know that Triumph has a pretty good program for test rides (top right corner of their website) and you'll find a place to test ride the triple.
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Thanks, I should have mentioned in my original post budget is $8k-$10k so probably a 4-5 year old bike. Will change it now.
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The Triumps Speed Triple is a phenomenal bike. Perfectly smooth powerband, excellent fueling, great brakes, good handling. Sounds great. A bit heavy, though.

The Tuono sounds great, s good top-end power, is lighter and maybe better handling, but is rough at lower RPMs and the gearing is way too high. Not as fun in town.

The Superduke you know.

Personally, I'd take a good condition S3 over a similar priced Tuono.




Myself, I loved my S3. It was a great bike. I've put a fair number of miles in on a VFR4 Tuono and just haven't fallen in love with it.
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+1 for the Aprilia. Had an 09 Tuono (V-Twin) and now a 14 RSV4. Both been dead reliable. No issues. Once you test ride the V4 Tuono you'll have a grin a mile wide.
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How many miles do you plan on putting on it?

I absolutely adore my superduke 990 however it's a maintenance with 10k mile valve checks. So I'm doing at least one valve check a year, however since I have a 10mm hotcam shim kit and I've done it 4 times now I've gotta pretty quick with it. I have almost 40k miles on my bike with a bunch of aftermarket performance parts and it's never let me down outside of a bad reg/rec I replaced with a MOSFET unit.

If you plan on racking up the miles then I would stick with a Japanese naked. I know I know, boring IL4's are boring and IMO an IL4 is counter intuitive to have in a naked unless it's a big bore air cooled IL4 like the old Suzuki GS bikes. But they're just so good with maintenance.

I have zero personal experience with the other two, a friend had a S3 and it was broken down so often he got a Superduke to ride while he worked on the S3.

I commute on mine 90 miles a day through the Cajon pass and the wind blast aint unless you have the core strength of a 10 year old girl going through chemotherapy.
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The Triumps Speed Triple is a phenomenal bike. Perfectly smooth powerband, excellent fueling, great brakes, good handling. Sounds great. A bit heavy, though.

The Tuono sounds great, s good top-end power, is lighter and maybe better handling, but is rough at lower RPMs and the gearing is way too high. Not as fun in town.

The Superduke you know.

Personally, I'd take a good condition S3 over a similar priced Tuono.




Myself, I loved my S3. It was a great bike. I've put a fair number of miles in on a VFR4 Tuono and just haven't fallen in love with it.
Thanks, interesting to hear you haven't fallen in love with the Tuono. I'll be commuting mainly on surface streets so not being as fun in town may be an issue.
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There are a couple of S1000R on Craigslist under 7000 miles for 10k, best naked you can get IMHO.
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How many miles do you plan on putting on it?

I absolutely adore my superduke 990 however it's a maintenance with 10k mile valve checks. So I'm doing at least one valve check a year, however since I have a 10mm hotcam shim kit and I've done it 4 times now I've gotta pretty quick with it. I have almost 40k miles on my bike with a bunch of aftermarket performance parts and it's never let me down outside of a bad reg/rec I replaced with a MOSFET unit.

If you plan on racking up the miles then I would stick with a Japanese naked. I know I know, boring IL4's are boring and IMO an IL4 is counter intuitive to have in a naked unless it's a big bore air cooled IL4 like the old Suzuki GS bikes. But they're just so good with maintenance.

I have zero personal experience with the other two, a friend had a S3 and it was broken down so often he got a Superduke to ride while he worked on the S3.

I commute on mine 90 miles a day through the Cajon pass and the wind blast aint unless you have the core strength of a 10 year old girl going through chemotherapy.
Probably around 7,000 a year made up of 5,000 miles a year commuting on surface streets, maybe another 2,000 elsewhere including canyons with hopefully 1-3 track days a year.

Good to hear you have 40k on the superduke. Do the valve adjustments take you long and have they needed much adjustment each time?
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Probably around 7,000 a year made up of 5,000 miles a year commuting on surface streets, maybe another 2,000 elsewhere including canyons with hopefully 1-3 track days a year.

Good to hear you have 40k on the superduke. Do the valve adjustments take you long and have they needed much adjustment each time?
Not much at all, I've swapped out all the shims once at my 30k mile check other than that they haven't been out of spec.
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yes. get naked. join the nudist colony! hahaahahah.

btw, bigger isn't always better.
I have an FZ07 and I am quite satisfied.
giggity giggity giggity!

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There are a couple of S1000R on Craigslist under 7000 miles for 10k, best naked you can get IMHO.
Interesting but just revised insurance quote and it's doubled compared to the Speed Triple, Tuono and Superduke.
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Well perfection ain't cheep.
Yeah, but I am

Think I need to do some more insurance shopping too as $3k is just not right.

Saw in another thread AAA and State Farm seem to give better rates so will check them out.
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Think I need to do some more insurance shopping too as $3k is just not right.

Saw in another thread AAA and State Farm seem to give better rates so will check them out.
AAA is solid, they came through for me big time when my bike was stolen. They nearly gave me the same price I paid for the bike out the door. I was shocked to actually make money off a stolen bike with a 1000 dollar deductible.
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AAA is solid, they came through for me big time when my bike was stolen. They nearly gave me the same price I paid for the bike out the door. I was shocked to actually make money off a stolen bike with a 1000 dollar deductible.
Good to know that just because they may be cheaper their service isn't worse. Definitely going to check them out. Thanks
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