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Old 05-19-2018, 11:44 PM   #1
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A Word on Old Gear

After a long hiatus in riding, I tried using my old Dainese torque boots. They were sitting in my closet for some 7 years and had about 1 year of reasonable use. Within a day, the sole of the boot started to come off BOTH of the boots. I noticed only when I had a flip-flop slap leaving a breakfast joint.



It got me thinking about the limitations of adhesive and helmets themselves. I'm a fan of buying clearance helmets, but I know that they always have a year or 2 gone from their 5 year suggested use. My brother, on the other hand, is using my old Arai that's 8 years past the manufacture date. It makes me cringe, a bit, but I know many people aren't bothered by this stuff.

Guess I would create a thread and see what you guys think about the topic. How old is too old? What gear would you wear 5+ years? 8+ years?
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Old 05-20-2018, 12:36 AM   #2
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I had the same situation with my SIDIs, unused in my closet for years, and when I started to use them again the sole's glue failed. I took them to a shoe repair and got them re-glued with stronger and "more" glue. (The repairman said there wasn't enough glue put on by the manufacturer.) But the problem is now fixed. I still love my boots plus the color is now really really hard to find.

I'd go with the standard of 5 years with helmet replacement. With a few top of the line helmets like Arai, you might be able to go another year or 2 without worries, if the lid has really been cared for.
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Old 05-20-2018, 09:53 AM   #3
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I have a Bell Qualifier thats just over 5 years old. Lightly used I was going to just give it away but now thinking of just tossing it.
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I have a Bell Qualifier thats just over 5 years old. Lightly used I was going to just give it away but now thinking of just tossing it.
Ive read the the EPS liner, due to it's chemical makeup, releases gases over time and therefore it degrades. So in about 5 years or so of use, the EPS won't be as effective/shock(energy) absorbing upon impact.
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I think boots and helmets probably should be replaced every 5 years or so. I think that leathers can last much longer, as long as the paramedics don't cut them off of you. That's why I replaced mine lol
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I usually just get rid of helmets when they start showing heavy signs of wear and tear or feels loose.Three to five years sounds about right depending how much use it gets. It helps to clean it often and wear a head bandana.

My first helmet Iíve used the most tho, padding and liner littary falling apart. Thinking back might as well been wearing a paper hat.
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5 years is pretty much the rule. They expect it to sit on a shelf for up to 2 years, and get 5 years of active service after that. Maximum 7 years from mfg date (I think both Shoei and Arai's warranty are like this)

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Ive read the the EPS liner, due to it's chemical makeup, releases gases over time and therefore it degrades. So in about 5 years or so of use, the EPS won't be as effective/shock(energy) absorbing upon impact.
Also oils from your head, chemicals from shampoos / conditioners / etc cause further breakdown.
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if i paid $700 for an arai helmet, i'd use it for 8+ years also lol
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What do you do with your old helmets? Hard to throw them in a trash can...


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If you find a good option (that doesn't involve shipping), let me know because I have 3 Arai helmets that are beautiful and new looking but WAY too old. One of them was used maybe 5 times.
.........maybe some place that wants moto decorations, because these should never be used again. I'll cut off the straps to.




You know, with the considerable cost of good helmets and the difficulty of finding the perfect color scheme (for me at least), I think it's about time we have replaceable liners because the shell can keep its integrity for much longer. Can I get an Amen?

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Shells break down as well. Shoei uses organic fibers in their shells that deteriorate with time. The non organic fibers become brittle and more susceptible to cracking. Their recommended service life is 7 years from date of manufacture or 5 years from date of purchase. EPS liners breakdown from body oils and environmental contaminants. I’ve replaced the EPS liner in a Shoei helmet, major PITA.

I’ve smashed both new and old helmets with a log splitter, no way I’d shove my gourd in an old helmet. New helmets are flexible and take the impact we’ll, even bouncing back into shape. Old helmets are brittle and crack rather than distributing the impact.
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Great thread with good info. Too many people don't understand an old helmet will not protect them correctly.
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After a long hiatus in riding, I tried using my old Dainese torque boots. They were sitting in my closet for some 7 years and had about 1 year of reasonable use. Within a day, the sole of the boot started to come off BOTH of the boots. I noticed only when I had a flip-flop slap leaving a breakfast joint.

It got me thinking about the limitations of adhesive and helmets themselves. I'm a fan of buying clearance helmets, but I know that they always have a year or 2 gone from their 5 year suggested use. My brother, on the other hand, is using my old Arai that's 8 years past the manufacture date. It makes me cringe, a bit, but I know many people aren't bothered by this stuff.

Guess I would create a thread and see what you guys think about the topic. How old is too old? What gear would you wear 5+ years? 8+ years?
Helmets are living things. As long as you keep feeding them your sweat, they stay alive. Once you put a helmet away for more than a year, dry rot may set in. It's best to sell your dirty lid on eBay, if you're not going to use it for a while. Let another guy wear your stink and keep the helmet alive. When you're ready to start riding, again, consider buying a used lid. It's much better than something that's new.
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Helmets are living things. As long as you keep feeding them your sweat, they stay alive. Once you put a helmet away for more than a year, dry rot may set in. It's best to sell your dirty lid on eBay, if you're not going to use it for a while. Let another guy wear your stink and keep the helmet alive. When you're ready to start riding, again, consider buying a used lid. It's much better than something that's new.


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