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Old 06-17-2014, 12:30 AM   #1
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speed wobble.

From your experience what is the best way to get out of the wobble? Other than throttle.
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Old 06-17-2014, 12:38 AM   #2
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Prevent it by installing a damper or stiffening your current one. But if you do get the wobbles, just go with the flow and don't fight it. The bike is designed to correct itself. If you fight your bike, you will lose.
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Like KABIKANO says don't fight it, loosen your grip and let the bike fix itself. THEN the first thing I would do is figure out what is wrong with your bike/suspension that is causing the speed wobbles. Steering dampers will help reduce them, but there is something causing them to begin with. Why put a band-aid on a problem when you NEED to fix it.
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First thing I would do is figure out what is wrong with your bike/suspension that is causing the speed wobbles. Steering dampers will help reduce them, but there is something causing them to begin with. Why put a band-aid on a problem when you need to fix it.
I see your point and makes sense but I just assumed it was an outside force causing the wobbles. That's why I gave the answer that I did. Wasn't suggesting a band-aid fix at all.
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Ok so here was my scenario. I was riding with my wife on the back. Full gear. Went to turn left at a light and wife tapped my shoulder and pointed to go straight. I didnt no the area. So I doing about 25 and I turn to look where my wife is pointing and when I turned my eyes back to the road i saw the light was red and a car stopped at the light. I down shifted and braked front and rear and the bike went in a wobble and threw both of us high side. Other than not being a fuc*$! when I ride and not takin my eyes off the road, how could I have fixed the wobble in just 20 ft and at a red light?
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Not sure if I'm following you bro... Did you brake hard with the bars turned left or were you in a counter steer and leaning and broke hard?
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Broke hard with the wheel to the left and locked up the rear tire
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Broke hard with the wheel to the left and locked up the rear tire
Try get the bike straight as possible before applying the brakes. I know in situations like yours it's almost near impossible to do that but being crossed up like that and locking the rears at that speed will cause you to wobble. Stay safe brother, I know Friday can't get here soon enough for ya!
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Thanks man. And you have no idea lol.
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Sounds like you don't have a speed wobble, you had a problem with braking while turning. Totally different issues.
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If I read correctly your front wheel was turned pointing left as you went to brake you locked up the rear which caused the handle bars to shake violently going into a speed wobble?

Remember the bikes natural reaction is to turn itself upright when you brake. If you're in a turn or leaning and you apply brakes the bike is gonna want to automatically get itself upright. So it sounds to me like your bike was leani g left when you braked hard which brought your bike upright. Now you said it ended in a high side. So as the bike came upright and the rear wheel caught traction it threw you and the wife over.

If I got that correct I guess try to learn your bike more I see you haven't had it long, my suggestion, find an empty parking lot where you have plenty of space and are allowed to be in most importantly and practice turni f the bike at low and at semi moderate speeds. As well as practice braking so you know and familiarize yourself with your brakes. You want to k ow how much "bite" your brakes have so you can adjust your braking accordingly and know how much or how hard you can apt those brakes I. Certain situations. Overall get some practice on that bike. Those things are animals and have plenty of power overall. Good luck out there man and be safe
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Sounds like you don't have a speed wobble, you had a problem with braking while turning. Totally different issues.
actually i don't have an issue with braking and turning. I had very little to no room to stop. turned the wheel to avoid the car and it threw us. everybody is entitled to an opinion though. thanks for the advice.
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actually i don't have an issue with braking and turning. ...turned the wheel to avoid the car and it threw us.
You can't fix/address the problem if you can't define the problem.

SPEED WOBBLE would be a steering instability in a straight line at speed. It could be caused by tire cupping/tire pressures, steering stem bearings going bad/improper torque values, too much throttle causing the front end to go light, and a host of other less common causes.

A highside during severe breaking is NOT a "speed wobble". That is, by definition, a braking problem.

If you can't see that, and can't/won't accept that, I don't think you're going to find much help or a solution. You're welcome to keep trying it's a free country.
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Cool That first link is what we call a " speed wobble " the lower link is a " high side " ~ both of them crashed . . .

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You can't fix/address the problem if you can't define the problem.

SPEED WOBBLE would be a steering instability in a straight line at speed.
It could be caused by tire cupping/tire pressures,
steering stem bearings going bad/improper torque values,
too much throttle causing the front end to go light,
and a host of other less common causes.

A highside during severe breaking is NOT a "speed wobble".
That is, by definition, a braking problem.

If you can't see that, and can't/won't accept that, I don't think you're going to find much help or a solution. You're welcome to keep trying it's a free country.

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